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Grateful Dead Live at Rotterdam Civic Hall on 1972-05-11

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Grateful Dead Live at Rotterdam Civic Hall on 1972-05-11

Topics Live concert

This show has been commercially released as " Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition"

Playin' In The Band, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, Deal, Chinatown Shuffle, Mexicali Blues, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, It Hurts Me Too, Beat It On Down The Line, Brown Eyed Women, Jack Straw, Big Railroad Blues, Good Lovin', Casey Jones Morning Dew, Me & My Uncle, Two Souls In Communion, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Next Time You See Me, Dark Star-> Drums-> Dark Star-> Sugar Magnolia-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks)-> Who Do You Love-> Truckin'-> Uncle John's Band, E: One More Saturday Night

Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Rotterdam Civic Hall
Location Rotterdam, Netherlands

Source 10" MR@7.5ips->DAT>CDR


10" MR@7.5ips->DAT>CDR; Note This seed does not have the splice in IKYR and it includes OMSN. Shn'ed & uploaded to fungus by Joe Samaritano 12/29/01; Seeded to abgd via Charlie Connor 01/02.


Reviewer: DoctorMaceio - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 20, 2017
Subject: download show
Reviewer: Mind Wondrin - favoritefavoritefavorite - September 15, 2016
Subject: So many super-long shows on E72

One of the 3 E72 long ones - 4 hours w/out breaks. Played in another magnificent Euro concert hall, with a weird, bowed shape. De Doelen [The Goals] has a 2200-seater theater, de Grote Zaal [Grand Hall] , which was then new. They had just played Amsterdam, so they moved just a few dozen miles this night! The 1st Set doesn't have the electricity or punch of most of E72 and it's not the best of E72 for highest highlights - but it's E72, so they still played great. They took just one break this show.

First Set. Playing in the Band is tight and Billy is great but there is also Donnaskreech™. Mr. Charlie is excellent but much of the rest is by-the-numbers. Deal is laid into a downtempo shuffle. Chinatown is just average. Jer starts picking it up on Mexicali and Keith starts jazzing, setting up for a stellar China Cat>Rider. Another peak is the Beat it on Down the Line-14. Jack Straw is an intricate but subtle version. Good Lovin' is average Pig though the return@10:00 is eerily psychic. Casey Jones is a perfect version of the mostly rote song.

Second Set. Morning Dew ain't bad, it's just out of tune, but Me & My Uncle is all wound up and short with Jer buzzing a burly tone and Keith all tightened. The rest is average to above-average. Jer's tones are the interesting thing here, like on El Paso & Tennessee. Dark Star takes jazzy turns - listen for the hint of Bach's Bourree. At 48min it's a candidate for longest-ever Dark Star - it's 23min before the 1st lyric. I'm partially perplexed: there are a couple good passages buried in there, but shouldn't there be when you have almost an hour to hit on something? Are you really going to wade through this more than once? Must hear it once I suppose. Jer teases Truckin' and even checks his tuning (!) before Bobby finally veers into Sugar Mag. Pig briefly raps Diddley's Who Do You Love? at the end of Caution (they had just played with him). This is the last (full) Caution and is perhaps the best of the 5 of the tour - but these aren't the '68 or '69 Cautions. Note that when Truckin' does launch it's Bobby that plays the riff by himself. Pig stays out on organ. Maybe it's Pigs presence that prevents the '72 Bobby yelps. UJB is prefunctory but One More Saturday Night is a great capper - though (oops!) left off the official release.

1st Set:   B-
2nd Set: C+
Overall = 3¼ stars

Mr. Charlie - excellent
China Cat Sunflower - not only one of the tour's best but one of 72's best
Beat it on Down the Line - excellent Jer fretwork
Jack Straw - intricate but subtle
Casey Jones - no surprises but perfect
Me & My Uncle - wound up

SOURCES: The samaritano.9357 SBD is pitched slightly fast and needs -1%. Otherwise it's the best source. The official release is missing the encore. Chinatown is on So Many Roads.
Reviewer: joker13 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 15, 2015
Subject: Favorite of Europe 72
This has always been my favorite of the run. I can give a lengthy detailed review, but in this case words fall short, so I leave it with just a few: Playing opener; EPIC Dark Star; last great Caution.

The dead played scores of great shows, but this one stands out among the best of the best.
Reviewer: DMT - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 26, 2014
Subject: !
45 min Dark Star... one of the longest
Reviewer: - - July 24, 2013
Subject: I can't figure out how to download this
did you know that this was officially released on Europe 72 the complete recordings but the official release did not include who do you love and one more saturday night so this is actually better because it includes every song from that concert unlike the official release but i can't figure out how to download/stream this could someone help me
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 23, 2013
Subject: --
If I had to name the best show of Europe '72 off the top of my head, I'd go with this one. It's exhausting, overwhelming, pick your favorite adjective. Jack Straw, by now, had developed into a very real and substantial tune and that 30-minute jam out of drums is one of the all-time greats. There are too many highlights here for words.
Reviewer: tucsonactuary - - April 11, 2011
Subject: DSO
FYI, Dark Star did this show Saturday night in S.F. Marvelous job.
Reviewer: Pangolin22 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 14, 2011
Subject: Another Europe 72 beauty
Each of these Europe 72 performances is perfection. Such a high point for the band. The consistency of performances from night to night was outstanding.
The Sugar Mag to Truckin' run was my favourite part of the show. A really gorgeous Black Throated Wind as well.
Reviewer: Dstone5553 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 14, 2010
Subject: downloading
The only downloading available for these shows is in lossy format.

Be warned.
Reviewer: Ernie Bo-Peep - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 11, 2010
Subject: Longest Dark Star?
The longest, uninterrupted Dark Star is from 12/6/73.
This one, if you include the drum solo, is the second longest and 8/28/69(not really the GD but Mickey and the Hartbeats) is the longest if you include the Eleven Jam. 5/11/72 is certainly tops in many lists and rightfully so!
Reviewer: Sedula - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 10, 2010
Subject: Is this the longest Dark Star??
Does anyone know if this is the longest Dark Star?? If not do you know which one(s) are longer?
Reviewer: kcmoeron09 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 10, 2010
Subject: just grateful
that is all... lovin jerry sing morning dew right now. but this whole show is wonderful. great full bodied recording
Reviewer: roseagle - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 11, 2009
Subject: WIlling to Share?
Once in the public domain, always public property...
Is there anyone out there willing to share this one?

Your help is much appreciated.

Reviewer: rick e. - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 16, 2009
Subject: 5/11/72
This is one of the best Dead concerts of all time.Dark Star is amazing and Morning Dew is beautiful. I'm surprized this one wasn't released at some point ..
Reviewer: oh_uh_um_ah - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 3, 2009
Subject: The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live in Concert" May 11, 1972 at the Rotterdam Civic Hall, Rotterdam, Netherlands


Classic "Europe 72" Soundboard.

A nice show to add to your 1972 GRATEFUL DEAD collection, especially for us Pigpen fans.

The first few songs work out the audio problems.
What else is new with live recordings of the DEAD?

I recommend using your EQ during playback of most of the shows on the IA, this one included. Windows Media Player has a 10 band EQ and SRS WOW effects that enhance the sound.

Here's one way to download this show:

The IA recommends users of Windows XP view this web-page with RealPlayer. RealPlayer is a free media player you can download at

Using RealPlayer to view this webpage, click the VBR M3U link to open the songs in the Playlist. If your Playlist is not open, open it by clicking the Playlist icon at the lower right hand corner of RealPlayer. Once the songs are in the Playlist, double click the song to play it, then click the record button at the lower left hand corner of Realplayer to record it.

When the red line reaches the other end click the stop button to download the song. Your song is in the RealPlayer Downloads folder. Repeat these steps for each song.

Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.

Thanks for the LOVE from 1972.

PS: Get em' while you can, get em' while they're free, get em' now or you'll be sorry...the Man giveth and the Man taketh away...WTTW
Reviewer: gruUbic - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 11, 2008
Subject: Love Karma
trying to find new shows -- and BAM -- 36 years ago today -- the boyz played this show

I've been to a show in Rotterdam -- Dire Straits -- fun times --
I woulda been two years old -for this one...

God bless -- the entire show DRIPSSSSSS

the DS is a keeper ---

is this a Vault show?

god bless the Greatful Dead!
5 -
phyve -
cinco --
V -
Funf -

Reviewer: Marcos69 - - April 4, 2008
Subject: How to get a copy?
sjacob87 how do i contact you to get a file of this show?

Reviewer: looks like Phil. - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 27, 2008
Subject: Nice Show
Great sound thoughout, gotta love BTW and Playin' opener.
Its all good from there.
Reviewer: 3chrds - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 26, 2008
Subject: person below

Reviewer: wharfrat72 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 25, 2008
Subject: Download Secret...
... install the Mozilla Firefox browser on your computer and the flash plugin. It allows you to right click on each song and choose "download this song" from the menu. Select each song with a left click first and let it buffer into memory, then right click on it to "download this song".
Reviewer: sjacob87 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 24, 2008
Subject: Great show indeed
Have to agree, love the show, and it is one of the few, if not the only show played on my birthday. I have the entire Euro 72 tour on CDs, many are not the greatest quality, but if you would like a copy of this show send me an email and i can send you the file, or make a copy on CD.
Reviewer: slicedbread - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 6, 2008
Subject: TastyA
This is one of the most tasty little ditties. Enjoyed and will further enjoy for the times to come, Hope everyone gets to listen to such a fine Jam!
Reviewer: theyoungdeadhead - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 6, 2008
Subject: Download
What a great concert
does anyone know where you can download it?
Reviewer: CalebIsHungry - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 28, 2008
Subject: Me Want Download!
How can I get this? I'm been streaming it, but I want it on my IPod. Why can't I download this?
Reviewer: StrawRider - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 21, 2005
Subject: Got Rotterdam?
This show has to be in my top 10. I don't think I could live without it and if you don't have it by now...what in the world are you waiting for?
The Dark Star>SugarMag>Caution~Who Do You Love is legendary. That, in itself, is worthy of a download but don't stop yourself there. There is nothing to overlook's all good. Whatever you do, DO NOT pass over the Morning Dew. I think it quite possibly could be the greatest Dew ever recorded.
Why are there so many five star reviews?
Because this show is GREAT!
Don't walk away from this one...start downloading!
CD Burning Hint: Move UJB and OMSN to disc 2 for a total of three great discs.
Reviewer: devlin - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 31, 2005
Subject: Just a great one
One of the best gd show ever. And IMHO this source is the one to DL, far superior to the other.
Reviewer: yippierb - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 17, 2005
Subject: Ahh ..Hell......., Just Dance and scream!
Nuff said!....9-17-05..still checking in and still lovin this mother
Reviewer: nightbirdflyin - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 25, 2005
Subject: One of my top 5
Top of their game.
Can't stop listening to this one!
Reviewer: iriedancer - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 9, 2005
Subject: Hot Hot Hot
This is one sexy as hell show. Grab your honey, turn down the lights and enjoy!
Reviewer: jordan5k - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 28, 2005
Subject: for the love of music
This show well deserves its accolades, the free-form dark star in particular. but what sums it all up for me is the tiny intro into uncle johns. jerry and phil's playing is so light, subtle, intricate, soulfull. they were tuned into some higher calling that night in 72.
Reviewer: Capt. Cook - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 26, 2005
Subject: Dark Star
The single most amazing jam EVER, is in the Dark Star before the drum solo, just pure swing as the band developes slowly the theme, Phil and Jerry leading the way. These moments in Dark Star are little songs themselves (some become songs even), a Great Jam from nothing into nothing, moments you were glad the tape machine was still filled with tape.
Reviewer: Jimi @ Holy Grail Studios - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 10, 2005
Subject: Another 5 Star review for this bad mother!
Man, I love the Dead and I'll give a 4 star review to just about anything recorded decent because in the 600+ shows I have there is not a single one that the performance just plain sucks.That said I reserve the 5 star review for only the most euphoria induceing performances.This is one of them.
1972,epic length,great recording quality,40 something min. Dark Star,Jack Straw,tons of cohesive jams,you name it ,it has it.
This is my all time favorit show from my favorite year.All performances are top notch especially the longest Dark Star jam of all time.During this part of the show Jerry,Phil, and Bill become one simbiotic unit playing for a common purpose.Pushing and pulling the elastic tempo of the jam with the precision of a pre-scored studio performance.This is one of way too many highlights to mention.
Also, unless your only going to listen to this show through your computer speakers, download this version over the other one available.This one has not been man handled as much and will take to high end equipment and eq'ing much better.With a pro mastering job this one would be ready for release.
Download and enjoy for life!
Reviewer: Serge - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 16, 2004
Subject: Dark Star!!!!
probably the longest '72 version, this one stands alone, standard '72 gig, good sound and setlist, but once you hear Jerry's feeding back his guitar in the middle of the monster Dark Star, you forget about the rest, spacey, misterious, a lot of fine interplay, love it, if you are into Dark Star, this one is a must!!
Reviewer: Serge - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 16, 2004
Subject: Dark Star!!!!
probably the longest '72 version, this one stands alone, standard '72 gig, good sound and setlist, but once you hear Jerry's feeding back his guitar in the middle of the monster Dark Star, you forget about the rest, spacey, misterious, a lot of fine interplay, love it, if you are into Dark Star, this one is a must!!
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